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Louis Belogenis

Tenor Saxophone, Soprano Saxophone — American — B: date and place not confirmed (see notes)
Louis Belogenis

Louis Belogenis (tenor saxophone, right) performing with Rashied Ali (drums) and Wilber Morris (bass), on the cover of *Live at Tonic* (DIW-940, 2001) Album cover art (not a CC-licensed artist photo) - used as the only available image showing the artist — Album cover art, Ali / Belogenis / Morris, Live at Tonic (DIW, 2001, catalog DIW-940)

Louis Belogenis, billed on nearly all of his own records and in most press as "Louie" Belogenis, is a tenor and soprano saxophonist who came up in the New York avant-garde of the old East Village. He is self-taught, and his music carries the influence of Buddhism, poetry, film, and dance alongside jazz: he spent four years as a member of Richard Foreman's Ontological-Hysteric Theatre company before establishing himself on the downtown jazz scene. He became close with saxophonist and composer John Zorn, who picked out Belogenis's first saxophone with him at a used-instrument shop on Third Avenue and 11th Street; Zorn later produced two of his leader dates.

Belogenis met drummer Rashied Ali in the late 1980s while playing in a band led by drummer William Hooker. Ali heard him and invited him to visit his Soho studio, on the site of the former club Ali's Alley. The meeting led to Prima Materia, a collective the two men co-led with pianist Greg Murphy, bassist Joe Gallant, and alto saxophonist Allan Chase, formed to perform the most demanding late repertoire of John Coltrane and Albert Ayler. The group's first recording, Peace on Earth (Music of John Coltrane) (1994, Knitting Factory Works), used bassist William Parker rather than Gallant; Prima Materia then recorded Coltrane's Meditations and Ayler's Bells live at the Knitting Factory in 1995 and 1996, respectively, with bassist Wilber Morris subbing for a 1997 Vision Festival performance that later surfaced on an AUM Fidelity compilation. A posthumous studio-and-archival release, Configurations, followed in 2009 after Ali's death.

Ali and Belogenis also recorded as a duo. Rings of Saturn, cut August 9 and 19, 1997 at Ali's own Survival Studios and released in 1999 on Knitting Factory Records, reportedly began when Ali, after building the studio with money from a bicycle-accident settlement, wanted to test its acoustics; the session grew into a full record, with a version of "Saturn," from Coltrane's Interstellar Space, included as the pair's explicit tribute to that record. The duo expanded to a trio with bassist Wilber Morris for Live at Tonic, recorded and released in January 2001 on the Japanese DIW label, taped live at the Manhattan club Tonic.

Alongside the Ali collaborations, Belogenis has led a run of his own groups since the early 1990s. He recorded a duo album with cellist Michelle Kinney, Knot Other Than Love (1990, Aphid Records), and turns up on record with William Hooker's Sextet (1992-93) and the noise-rock/free-improv band God Is My Co-Pilot (1993-94) around the same period. His quartet Twice Told Tales, with saxophonist Tony Malaby, bassist Trevor Dunn, and drummer Ryan Sawyer, recorded its only album in 2002 (released 2003, DIW), with John Zorn credited as associate producer. He co-led Unbroken (2005, Tick Tock) with bassist Shanir Ezra Blumenkranz and drummer Kenny Wollesen, and formed the long-running Flow Trio with bassist Joe Morris and drummer Charles Downs, documented on The Flow (recorded 2004, released 2007, Ayler Records), Rejuvenation (2009, ESP-Disk'), Set Theory: Live at the Stone (recorded 2009, released 2011, Ayler Records) and, with guest tenor saxophonist Joe McPhee, Winter Garden (recorded January 2020, released 2021, ESP-Disk').

Belogenis's other working group with Sunny Murray and bassist Michael Bisio, billed as the Louie Belogenis Trio, recorded Tiresias at Eastside Sound in May 2008; the album, released in 2011 on Porter Records, carries a dedication "in loving memory of John Belogenis (May 25, 1921 - December 2, 2009) and Rashid Ali (July 1, 1933 - August 12, 2009)," his father and his old collaborator, both of whom passed within weeks of each other. In 2015 he assembled a one-off quartet for Blue Buddha (Tzadik), with trumpeter Dave Douglas, bassist Bill Laswell, and drummer Tyshawn Sorey; John Zorn again served as executive producer. Belogenis and the Twice Told Tales rhythm section of Trevor Dunn and Ryan Sawyer reunited as the trio Terton for Outer, Inner, Secret (recorded July 2022, released 2023, Tzadik). He has also recorded with his own trio-plus-trumpet group Exuberance, alongside trumpeter Roy Campbell Jr., bassist Hilliard Greene, and drummer Michael Wimberly, on The Other Shore (2003, Boxholder Records, dedicated to the memory of Wilber Morris) and Live at Vision Festival (recorded 2003, released 2004, Ayler Records).

Belogenis's playing draws on both the harmonic drive of late Coltrane and the raw, vocalized tone of Albert Ayler; a Wikipedia review of Rings of Saturn credits him with combining the "structural focus of Coltrane and the tonal elasticity of Ayler" rather than simply imitating either one. His work with Prima Materia and with Rashied Ali directly, first as a duo and then in the Live at Tonic trio, positioned him as a direct musical heir to that Coltrane-Ayler-Ali lineage, while Ali himself reportedly encouraged Belogenis to bring in outside influences, among them modern-classical composers, rather than stay inside the tradition he was inheriting. His extramusical grounding in Buddhist practice and in Richard Foreman's experimental theater work also shapes his output, most explicitly on the Buddhism-themed Blue Buddha (2015) and Terton, whose name refers to a discoverer of hidden Tibetan Buddhist teachings.

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Louis Belogenis: Full Discography

Verified against the live Discogs API (artist ID 273483, 41 credited releases as of this build). The Buy column is always "-" (no affiliate program set up yet).

As Leader / Co-Leader

Album Title Recording Date(s) Release Date Label Catalog Number Format(s) Personnel Role Reissue History Spotify Buy Notes
Knot Other Than Love May 10 and 23, 1990, Dessau Studios, NYC 1990 Aphid Records KOTL11 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (saxophone, producer), Michelle Kinney (cello, producer) Co-leader (duo) None found Not currently available on Spotify - His earliest documented recording; a duo with cellist Michelle Kinney
Rings Of Saturn Aug. 9 and 19, 1997, Survival Studios, NYC 1999 Knitting Factory Records KFR-232 CD, Album Rashied Ali (drums, producer, composer), Louis Belogenis (tenor sax, producer, composer) Co-leader (duo) None found Spotify - Rings Of Saturn - Duo record with Rashied Ali revisiting Coltrane's "Saturn," from Interstellar Space; has its own Wikipedia article
Live At Tonic Recorded live, Jan. 6, 2001, Tonic, NYC 2001 DIW DIW-940 CD, Album Rashied Ali (drums), Louis Belogenis (tenor and soprano sax), Wilber Morris (bass) Co-leader (trio) None found Not currently available on Spotify - The Ali/Belogenis duo expanded to a trio with bassist Wilber Morris; has its own Wikipedia article
Twice Told Tales Recorded and mixed Sept. 27, 2002 2003 DIW DIW-944 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (saxophone), Tony Malaby (saxophone), Trevor Dunn (bass), Ryan Sawyer (drums) Co-leader (quartet) None found Not confirmed on Spotify - Two-tenor quartet; John Zorn and Kazunori Sugiyama credited as associate producers
Unbroken Aug. 1, 2005, OMSS Studios 2005 Tick Tock TT001 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (tenor sax, producer), Shanir Ezra Blumenkranz (bass, bells), Kenny Wollesen (drums, bells) Co-leader (trio) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Tracks individually dedicated to Bokar Rinpoche, Federico García Lorca, Sonny Rollins, Albert Ayler, and Shanir Ezra
The Flow Jan. 29, 2004, CBGB Gallery, NYC 2007 Ayler Records aylDL-014 2xFile, MP3 Louis Belogenis (tenor sax), Joe Morris (bass), Charles Downs (drums) Co-leader (Flow Trio) None found Not currently available on Spotify - First release by the working Flow Trio
Rejuvenation Oct. 4, 2008, Context Studio, Brooklyn 2009 ESP-Disk' ESP 4052 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (tenor sax), Joe Morris (bass), Charles Downs (drums) Co-leader (Flow Trio) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Second Flow Trio studio release
Tiresias May 17, 2008, Eastside Sound 2011 Porter Records PRCD-4057 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (tenor sax), Michael Bisio (bass), Sunny Murray (drums) Co-leader (The Louie Belogenis Trio) None found Spotify - Tiresias - Dedicated in the liner notes to the memory of his father, John Belogenis (1921-2009), and Rashied Ali (1933-2009); includes a version of Coltrane's "Alabama"
Set Theory: Live At The Stone Recorded live, April 24, 2009, The Stone, NYC 2011 Ayler Records aylCD-107 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (tenor and soprano sax), Joe Morris (bass), Charles Downs (drums) Co-leader (Flow Trio) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Third Flow Trio release, recorded live
Blue Buddha Feb. 27, 2015 2015 Tzadik TZ 4010 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (tenor sax, liner notes, producer), Dave Douglas (trumpet), Bill Laswell (bass), Tyshawn Sorey (drums) Co-leader (quartet) None found Not currently available on Spotify - One-off quartet; John Zorn executive-produced
Winter Garden Jan. 11, 2020 2021 ESP-Disk' ESP 5040 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (tenor and soprano sax), Joe Morris (double bass), Charles Downs (drums), Joe McPhee (tenor sax, guest) Co-leader (Flow Trio with Joe McPhee) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Fourth Flow Trio release, with guest Joe McPhee
Outer, Inner, Secret July 28-29, 2022, EastSide Sound, NYC 2023 Tzadik TZ 4044 CD, Album Louis Belogenis (tenor and soprano sax, producer, sleeve notes), Trevor Dunn (bass), Ryan Sawyer (drums) Co-leader (Terton) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Reunites the Twice Told Tales rhythm section as a working trio; his most recent release as of this build

Prima Materia (co-led with Rashied Ali)

Prima Materia has its own JazzProfiles.com profile (linked in Related Artists); these are its releases on which Belogenis appears.

Album Title Recording Date(s) Release Date Label Catalog Number Format(s) Personnel Role Reissue History Spotify Buy Notes
Peace On Earth (Music Of John Coltrane) 1994 1994 Knitting Factory Works KFW 158 CD, Album Rashied Ali (drums), Louis Belogenis (tenor sax, producer), William Parker (bass) Leader/co-leader (Prima Materia collective) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Prima Materia's debut; William Parker plays bass here, before Joe Gallant took over the chair
Meditations (Prima Materia With Rashied Ali) Live, June 23, 1995, Knitting Factory, NYC 1995 Knitting Factory Works KFW 180 CD, Album Rashied Ali (drums, producer), Louis Belogenis (tenor sax, producer), Allan Chase (alto sax), Greg Murphy (piano), Joe Gallant (bass) Leader/co-leader (Prima Materia collective) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Live reinterpretation of Coltrane's Meditations
Bells (Prima Materia With Rashied Ali) Live, May 17, 1996, Knitting Factory, NYC 1996 Knitting Factory Works KFW 190 CD, Album Rashied Ali (drums, producer), Louis Belogenis (tenor sax, producer), Allan Chase (alto sax, transcription), Greg Murphy (piano), Joe Gallant (bass) Leader/co-leader (Prima Materia collective) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Reinterprets Albert Ayler's "Bells"
Configurations (The Music Of John Coltrane) Not fully confirmed; posthumous release 2009 Blue Music Group none 9xFile, MP3, Album Rashied Ali (drums), Louis Belogenis (saxophone), Allan Chase (saxophone), Greg Murphy (piano), Wilber Morris and Joe Gallant (bass, both credited) Leader/co-leader (Prima Materia collective) None found Not currently available on Spotify - Released after Ali's 2009 death; Discogs credits both Morris and Gallant on bass without a track-by-track split

As Sideman (selected major credits)

Year Project (Leader) Title Label Catalog Role Notes
1992 William Hooker Sextet Subconscious Ecstatic Peace! E# 21 Tenor saxophone Live recordings, WFMU studios and The Shelter, NYC; the gig where Rashied Ali first heard Belogenis play was with this band
1993 William Hooker Sextet The Etheric Double Audiofile Tapes none Tenor saxophone Cassette-only release
1993 God Is My Co-Pilot Straight Not (self-released/various) none Saxophone Catalog number not confirmed
1994 God Is My Co-Pilot How To Be (self-released/various) none Saxophone Also released in Japan as Mir Shlufn Nisht
1995 John Zorn John Zorn's Cobra Live At The Knitting Factory (archival) none Performer (Cobra ensemble) Recorded 1995; exact original release format/date not confirmed, appears to have circulated as an archival release
1996 Various (Prima Materia) New York Downtown: Jazz & Other Sounds Knitting Factory Works none Tenor saxophone Compilation track: Albert Ayler's "Bells"
1998 Various (Rashied Ali's Prima Materia) Vision Volume One: Vision Festival 1997 Compiled AUM Fidelity AUM 007/8 Tenor saxophone Compilation track: "Meditations (Excerpt)," recorded at the 1997 Vision Festival with Wilber Morris on bass
2003 Kevin Norton's Living Language Intuitive Structures Cadence Jazz Records CJR 1166 Saxophone Track: "Etude For Ricky W."
2003 Exuberance The Other Shore Boxholder Records BXH040 Tenor saxophone Dedicated to the memory of bassist Wilber Morris, who died in August 2002
2004 Various (Tzadik) Irving Stone Memorial Concert Tzadik none Saxophone Track: "Stone In The Bardo"
2004 Exuberance Live At Vision Festival Ayler Records aylCD-009 Tenor saxophone Recorded May 24, 2003 at the Vision Festival
2005 Sunny Murray Perles Noires Vol. I Eremite Records MTE045 Tenor saxophone With pianist Dave Burrell and bassist Alan Silva
2009 Steve Swell Presents: Magical Listening Hour Live @ The South Street Seaport Cadence Jazz Records none Saxophone Catalog number not confirmed
2009 Old Dog By Any Other Name Porter Records PRCD-4027 Tenor saxophone Recorded Dec. 29, 2007, with bassist Michael Bisio and drummer Warren Smith
(undated) Various (Knitting Factory Records) Tribeca Grand Hotel: Fresh Sounds From Tribeca, NYC Vol. 1 Knitting Factory Records none Tenor saxophone Compilation track: "Rings Of Saturn"

A Discogs credit linking Belogenis to Eugene Chadbourne / John Zorn's 1978 album School was checked directly against that master's full credits and found to be a data error: no Belogenis credit of any kind appears on that release, whose actual artists are Peter Beeker & Ongenode Gaste (Discogs master 1028398 is misfiled under the Chadbourne/Zorn artist page). It is excluded from this discography as unverified.

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